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WFTL Bytes! for Dec 16, 2008

This is WFTL Bytes!, your occasiodaily FOSS and Linux news show for Tuesday, December 16, 2008, with your host, Marcel Gagné. This is episode 38. Today's stories feature a whole mess of speculation. Does Windows need a package manager a la Linux? Can Apple do small? Will USB 3.0 do Linux first? Wherefore art thou, Palm new-ness? Who stole my Linux netbook? Will you believe the truth if you heard the lie first? It's all speculation.

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For the links to the stories covered in today's newscast, please click the 'read more' link.

Links to stories covered in today's newscast.

Windows needs a Linux package manager

How to choose a netbook; small is beautiful

The Geekess : USB 3.0 and Linux

Palm rebounds with Linux?

Windows done stole my Linux netbook

In Skins vs. Believers, Linux always loses

Misinformation : Seeing is Believing

Re: WFTL Bytes! for Dec 16, 2008

Another fine show Marcel ... still too much talk about Windows though; even if it is in a derogatory vein.
I had tried repeatedly to get my son's mother to get a linux laptop because she was in the market for one but alas, she (like the teacher in last week's show) is not a FOSS person (YET!). I did however manage to dissuade her from a Windows system, albeit towards an Apple model.
I am now looking to get myself a netbook to replace a couple of very old, very clunky desktops, and will show her the error of her ways in not choosing one of the greatest and most innovative operating systems around.

Re: WFTL Bytes! for Dec 16, 2008

Yay wftl bites! Boo windoz! Yay netbooks! Yay USB! YAY Linux! Boo stupid people!

Love my Dell

I used my Dell 910 exclusivly last week at UDS Jaunty and loved it. There are still programs in both KDE and GNOME that don't scale to the 1000 x 600 resolution the Dell uses otherwise everything works great. I also watched several videos on the the flights out got over 3 hours of battery life watching movies, was great.

Would highly recommend it. If you do get the Dell reload it with Ubuntu 8.10 on it. Fedora 10 also looks great as well but stuck with Ubuntu.


I speculate this is the greatest podcast on the interweb!!! Keep up the good work Marcel

Re: WFTL Bytes! for Dec 16, 2008

Another great wftl bytes Marcel.

Personally, the only option for a net book would be to have Linux on it. It just doesn't make sense to have a big bloated operating system like windows on a quick light-weight portable device like a net book. (I don't have one, but I've been considering it for awhile now.)

WFTL Bytes

Another fine pod cast from Marcel!

Thank you for keeping us WFTL-LUG nuts and many others informed about the happenings in the Linux world.

When it comes to some Linux in education, well, it's just a matter of time before Linux dominates this market as well. Paraphrasing an old saing, "If you wait long enough by the river, the Redmond virus will float by.

Good Job.

Another excellent newscast. Thanks.


I'd love to see Palm come out with a Linux-based operating system that does everything Palm OS does on my Palm TX. There are quite a few projects out there allowing you to run Linux on a Palm TX ( but installation doesn't look so easy. And when I compare what I payed for my Palm TX ($399) I know I would have gotten a lot more value from a Netbook if they were available at the time (about 3 years ago).

I know a few people with Netbooks (one has an OLPC actually) and they are very happy with them. A couple commented on the small keyboard, but that's not an OS issue.

Re: WFTL Bytes! for Dec 16, 2008

Some form of package management for windows would probably be a good thing.

Three Story Comments

First of all, great reporting as always. The show show continues to inform and entertain.

The story on Windows needing a package manager came at an intersting time. I just installed Fedora 10 on my desktop at work and the package manager had a problem that has been fairly common. I couldn't see any software packages to install and updating failed after the initial updates. Fortunately I was able to resolve the issue. I've also had package manager problems that I've had to fix in CentOS and Ubuntu Server LTS. To be fair, these problems have been a lot easier to fix than Windows installer and registry errors, but Linux package managers are far from error free.

My only experience with netbooks has been with Windows XP. Why would anyone want to buy a notebook or netbook with Windows XP? It runs slowly, has all the problems associated with XP and is a kludge because Vista can't and who knows if Windows 7 can run on netbooks. I hope to purchase a netbook running Linux soon to replace my Nokia N800, which is a great Linux device.

Finally, Palm. Too little too late for Palm? Probably. I don't expect a new PDA from Palm, so I could care less about what they have to announce. Unless they can come up with a killer (non cell phone) internet device that runs Linux and has a decent screen and software support (a la Nokia Nxxx), I'm not anticipating anything I would buy.


How about the other way.

I ran a Palm/Garnet emulator on my Nokia N800. Best if both worlds, Linux internet tablet and Palm software.


Putting Linux on Palm TX

I decided I'm going to put Linux on my Palm TX, I'll document it on Marcel's Main Site.

Re: WFTL Bytes! for Dec 16, 2008

Well, I'm not sure, but I believe that Microsoft already has a package management system. I can't tell for sure because I think it is proprietary and you have to buy into it ;). As for the FUD, they are shaking in there shoes in Redmond because time is of the essence and even the sleekness of the MAC will eventually succumb to the value available to the masses found within FOSS. Thank you for WFTL BYTES Marcel. Nice work!

Great show

Hi Marcel,

I just bought an Asus eeE and love it. So far it only has the Windows XP that came on it, but this weekend I plan to get Ubuntu going on it. It is perfect for me for taking around to meetings and classes. The only problem is the left shift being so small and right next to the arrow keys, which results in me highlighting chunks of text that then disappear when I type the next letter. Sometimes my fingers get out of control on the keyboard!


Netbooks with Linux and USB 3.0

I've seen several netbooks with linux on them at the local LUG meetings. So far I haven't found a real good reason to get one yet. I do have an old, old notebook with DSL on it and I don't use that much either. Having a faster more powerful netbook with linux pre-installed might change my mind once I get the rationale to really need one.

I find more excitement in regard to USB 3.0 and it appearing in linux first.

Love the Show!

I love the show. Are the Tuesday night programs also archived? Can they be downloaded?

Windows package manager

There used to be some good third party apps that would check various programs for updates, but those were in the dial up days and took too long to update all my software.
Now would make sense to make one.

USB 3.0

Soon it will be indisputable that Linux offers better hardware support than Windows.